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02/28/2013 11:15 AM House ECON. DEV., TRADE & TOURISM


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11:20:43 AM Presentations(s): Economic Benefits of Combining Industries
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TRADE AND                                                                 
                            TOURISM                                                                                           
                       February 28, 2013                                                                                        
                           11:19 a.m.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Shelley Hughes, Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Pete Higgins                                                                                                     
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATIONS(S):  ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF COMBINING INDUSTRIES                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
LORALI SIMON, Vice President                                                                                                    
External Affairs                                                                                                                
Usibelli Coal Mine, Inc. (UCM)                                                                                                  
Fairbanks, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Provided a PowerPoint presentation                                                                       
entitled, "The Impact of Usibelli Coal Mine Inc. on Economic                                                                    
Development, Trade, and Tourism."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
TOM BROOKS, Vice President                                                                                                      
Engineering                                                                                                                     
Alaska Railroad Corporation (ARRC)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Provided   a  PowerPoint   presentation                                                             
entitled,   "The   Alaska   Railroad   90   Years   of   Economic                                                               
Development."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DALE WADE, Vice President                                                                                                       
Business Development                                                                                                            
Alaska Railroad Corporation (ARRC)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Participated  in the PowerPoint presentation                                                             
entitled,   "The   Alaska   Railroad   90   Years   of   Economic                                                               
Development."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RALPH SAMUELS, Vice President                                                                                                   
Community & Government Relations                                                                                                
Holland America Line (HAL)                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Provided   a  PowerPoint   presentation                                                             
entitled,  "Overview  on tourism  &  travel  patterns for  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature," dated 2/28/13.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:19:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SHELLEY  HUGHES  called the  House  Special  Committee  on                                                             
Economic  Development,  Trade and  Tourism  meeting  to order  at                                                               
11:19 a.m.   Representatives Pruitt,  Tarr, Herron,  Higgins, and                                                               
Hughes were present at the call to order.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATIONS(s):  ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF COMBINING INDUSTRIES                                                                   
  PRESENTATIONS(s):  ECONOMIC BENEFITS OF COMBINING INDUSTRIES                                                              
                                                                                                                              
11:20:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES announced  that the only order of  business would be                                                               
presentations  by representatives  of the  resource, tourism  and                                                               
transportation industries, followed by  a panel discussion of the                                                               
economic benefits of combining industries.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:21:16 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
LORALI  SIMON, Vice  President, External  Affairs, Usibelli  Coal                                                               
Mine, Inc., provided a brief  history of Usibelli Coal Mine (UCM)                                                               
operations [slides  1 and  2].  She  informed the  committee that                                                               
the U.S. has 25 percent of  the world's coal reserves, and Alaska                                                               
has  50 percent  of the  U.S. coal  reserves, most  of which  are                                                               
located on  the North Slope  and the remainder close  to existing                                                               
infrastructure.    At the  rate  of  current consumption  by  the                                                               
Railbelt, Alaska  has about 1,000  years of coal  reserves [slide                                                               
3].  Economic development is related  to the price of energy, and                                                               
residents need to  be able to pay for their  energy costs at home                                                               
and for businesses, and she pointed  out that Alaska is among the                                                               
highest  ratepayers because  it is  one  of the  lowest users  of                                                               
coal.   However,  rates  in  Wyoming and  West  Virginia are  low                                                               
because they generate  over 90 percent of their  power with coal.                                                               
Ms. Simon urged  the committee to remember that  Alaska's coal is                                                               
abundant and affordable [slide 4].                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:24:58 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES asked why Alaska is not using its coal resources.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. SIMON opined the availability  of cheap natural gas from Cook                                                               
Inlet  to   the  Southcentral   population  base   precluded  the                                                               
development of coal resources.   She returned to the presentation                                                               
and said  UCM has about  130 employees,  37 percent of  which are                                                               
second, third,  or fourth  generation employees  [slide 5].   The                                                               
positions available  at UCM are varied,  require different levels                                                               
of  education and  previous experience,  and pay  wages that  can                                                               
support a family [slide 6].   Employment at UCM is year-around in                                                               
a  non-camp environment,  and Healy  has  the highest  per-capita                                                               
income in the  state; in fact, the average annual  wage earned in                                                               
the mining  industry in Alaska  is $100,000 [slide 7].   Economic                                                               
development  includes  new  development  and UCM  is  working  to                                                               
further develop the  Wishbone Hill Mine located  north of Palmer.                                                               
This could  become the only  operating mine in the  region, which                                                               
is a  traditional mining  area.  The  project has  been permitted                                                               
since the '90s  and leases and permits are  up-to-date [slide 8].                                                               
The Wishbone Hill project could  provide 75 to 125 full-time jobs                                                               
in a  community environment and  bring work to local  vendors and                                                               
contractors in Southcentral [slide 9].                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
11:29:49 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES asked whether there  are any hurdles to overcome for                                                               
the Wishbone Hill  project, and if common  misconceptions about a                                                               
coal mining project interfere.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SIMON advised  that  UCM is  in the  process  of renewing  a                                                               
mining permit through the Department  of Natural Resources (DNR).                                                               
She  said  UCM is  "following  the  law"  and DNR  has  requested                                                               
additional  items -  thus the  timeline  is uncertain  - but  the                                                               
renewal  could  be  issued  this spring  or  summer.    Regarding                                                               
misconceptions,   she  opined   residents  in   Southcentral  are                                                               
unfamiliar  with  an  active  mine  and  environmentalist  groups                                                               
spread fear  and anxiety in  the community.   Healy has  the only                                                               
operating coal mine  in the state and it is  an excellent example                                                               
of how state  laws and regulations protect public  health and the                                                               
environment.   Although the mining  operations would  differ, UCM                                                               
has an excellent reputation in the  state.  The coal industry has                                                               
a positive  economic impact on  the state's economy and  408 jobs                                                               
are a  direct result of  UCM operations  [slide 10].   Looking at                                                               
trade and  exports, UCM produces  about two million tons  of coal                                                               
each  year and  about one  million  tons are  exported to  Chile,                                                               
South Korea, and  Japan.  This amount is expected  to continue to                                                               
decline  due to  the  availability of  low-cost  natural gas  and                                                               
cheaper coal from elsewhere [slide 11].                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:34:17 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES asked for the value of the exported coal.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SIMON said  sales contracts  vary and  she will  provide the                                                               
amount  of taxes  and  royalties  UCM pays  to  the  state.   One                                                               
million tons of coal remains in  the state and she noted that the                                                               
new combined  heat and  power plant at  the University  of Alaska                                                               
Fairbanks (UAF)  will take advantage  of least-cost  fuel sources                                                               
and will  help reduce problems  with air quality standards.   The                                                               
Healy Clean  Coal Project  (HCCP) will be  a new  customer within                                                               
the  next few  years [slide  12].   Chile is  the largest  export                                                               
customer followed by  South Korea and Japan [slide 13].    Photos                                                               
of  the Seward  Coal Terminal  depicted the  ship loading  system                                                               
adjacent to  the cruise ship  terminal [slides  14 and 15].   She                                                               
pointed out the  proximity of cruise ships, a  small boat harbor,                                                               
and  campground   facilities.  Turning  to  tourism,   Ms.  Simon                                                               
reminded the committee UCM has operated  for 70 years at the edge                                                               
of Denali National  Park & Preserve along  with other businesses,                                                               
and she invited  the committee to join a legislative  tour of the                                                               
mine this summer [slide 16].                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES encouraged members to tour the facility.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:40:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
TOM   BROOKS,  Vice   President,  Engineering,   Alaska  Railroad                                                               
Corporation  (ARRC),  said  ARRC has  625  year-around  employees                                                               
represented  by five  unions, and  about 415,000  passengers were                                                               
transported last year [slide 2].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
11:41:20 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DALE WADE, Vice President,  Business Development, Alaska Railroad                                                               
Corporation (ARRC),  informed the committee revenue  from freight                                                               
in 2013 is projected to be  $92 million, comprising 67 percent of                                                               
total  revenue.   Passenger  business  represents  18 percent  of                                                               
revenue, and  real estate  revenue is almost  $17 million,  or 12                                                               
percent of total revenue [slide 3].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BROOKS provided  a  short history,  noting  that the  Alaska                                                               
Railroad was established in 1914  - construction was completed in                                                               
1923 -  for the  purpose of economic  development.   The railroad                                                               
authority  operated independently  within the  federal government                                                               
until 1985 when it was purchased  by the state for $22.3 million.                                                               
At that  time there was  an influx  of state funds  for operating                                                               
capital, but  since then  ARRC has  operated without  any further                                                               
state funding [slide 4 and 5].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:45:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE  explained freight services transport  oilfield supplies                                                               
to Prudhoe  Bay through Fairbanks; ship  petroleum products north                                                               
and south  from the North  Pole Refinery; ship military  goods to                                                               
and from  Alaska; and ship  coal daily  out of the  Usibelli Coal                                                               
Mine, Inc.  north and south  from Healy.  Other  freight services                                                               
utilize  the Trailers  on Flat  Car  (TOFC) system  which is  the                                                               
ability to  move goods on  fully loaded trailers that  are lifted                                                               
onto the  railcars and travel  from Anchorage to  Fairbanks. This                                                               
system  saves an  enormous  amount of  truck  traffic, fuel,  and                                                               
cost, and  is the  only economical way  to move  massive volumes.                                                               
Containers on  Flat Car (COFC)  is the system to  move containers                                                               
off of  barges and then  by rail.   In addition, about  2 million                                                               
tons  of  gravel  is  moved  for the  mining  industry  from  the                                                               
[Matanuska-Susitna (Mat-Su) Valley] to road projects [slide 6].                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
11:47:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE further explained that  shipping bulk petroleum from the                                                               
Flint  Hills  refinery  is  declining,  shipping  local  coal  is                                                               
increasing slightly,  shipping coal for export  is declining, and                                                               
shipping gravel is declining [slide  7].  Freight Facts for 2012:                                                               
57,250  railcars moved  5.6  million tons  and  accounted for  67                                                               
percent of revenue.  He pointed  out that by ARRC's connection to                                                               
the Lower  48 a  railcar can  be loaded in  Florida and  moved to                                                               
Fairbanks  without further  handling.   This is  a through-system                                                               
involving  Lower 48,  railroads,  barge service  from Seattle  to                                                               
Whittier, and rail further north on  ARRC [slide 8].   Intrastate                                                               
business  largely  consists  of  scrap material,  jet  fuel,  and                                                               
construction materials [slide  9].   Alaska Railbelt  Marine is a                                                               
unique  connection  with Alaska  Marine  Lines  that uses  highly                                                               
efficient  barges to  transport  railcars  and containers  [slide                                                               
10].  There is also  an international freight connection with the                                                               
Canadian National  Railroad to transport  goods from  the central                                                               
U.S. or  across Canada  to Prince  Rupert, British  Columbia, and                                                               
then by barge to Whittier for  the connection to ARRC [slide 11].                                                               
Passenger services  run daily May through  September and weekends                                                               
in winter  [slide 12].   Regularly scheduled  year-around service                                                               
is also  important to rural  communities [slide 13].   The summer                                                               
tourism business is very important:   ARRC transports visitors to                                                               
Denali National Park  & Preserve, south on  the Glacier Discovery                                                               
to Whittier, and on the  Coastal Classic from Anchorage to Seward                                                               
[slide 14].   A partnership  with the U.S. Forest  Service allows                                                               
ARRC to provide service from  Anchorage into the Chugach National                                                               
Forest [slide 15].   Passenger volumes are increasing  by about 7                                                               
percent per year  [slide 16].  Finally, real estate  is an aspect                                                               
of ARRC that  is critical to other businesses in  the state.  The                                                               
corporation owns  about 36,000  acres, much  of which  is highly-                                                               
valued land in Anchorage, Fairbanks,  and Seward, used to support                                                               
transportation services [slide 17].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:53:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROOKS  stated that  ARRC is working  with the  Department of                                                               
Transportation  &  Public Facilities  and  others  on the  Alaska                                                               
State Rail Plan,  which is due to be completed  this year, and is                                                               
interested  in  the  Alaska Transportation  Infrastructure  Fund.                                                               
Last year  ARRC was  authorized to extend  its real  estate lease                                                               
period  to 95  years which  will be  beneficial in  the long-term                                                               
[slide 18].   In response to Chair Hughes, he  said the rail plan                                                               
extends 20 years.   Regarding federal issues,  Mr. Brooks relayed                                                               
ARRC's  struggle  to  maintain  formula funds  from  the  Federal                                                               
Transit  Administration, U.S.  Department  of Transportation;  in                                                               
fact, funds  were reduced from  $36 million  to $27 million.   In                                                               
addition,  a  deadline is  approaching  for  an unfunded  federal                                                               
mandate for Positive Train Control  (PTC), which is an overriding                                                               
safety system  to reduce  the possibility of  human error.   This                                                               
system  is an  improvement in  safety, but  an expense  that ARRC                                                               
cannot afford [slide 19].                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
11:55:13                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES asked how the PTC system works.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROOKS  explained that a computer  system automatically slows                                                               
the train if the engineer makes an untoward action.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:55:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRUITT  observed  PTC  is estimated  to  cost  $5                                                               
million per year in maintenance.   He asked about the gap between                                                               
the  deadline,  the  construction   costs  of  $15  million,  and                                                               
implementation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BROOKS  said  using a  combination  of  internally-generated                                                               
funds  and   Federal  Transit   Administration  funds,   ARRC  is                                                               
beginning improvements  in its dispatch  system and  in telemetry                                                               
between remote locations and the  dispatch office.  The system is                                                               
expected  to  be completed  in  2018.    In further  response  to                                                               
Representative Pruitt, he said the  industry expects an extension                                                               
of the  deadline to  2018; however,  possible penalties  would be                                                               
financial and operating reductions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:58:12 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WADE,  in response  to  Representative  Pruitt, said  it  is                                                               
essential  that  ARRC  meet  the   federal  mandate  because  the                                                               
corporation is charged  to support the people of  Alaska and that                                                               
includes passenger  service.  In addition,  passenger service for                                                               
tourism is a very significant  economic driver for the state, and                                                               
discontinuation  of passenger  service  does  not make  financial                                                               
sense.  Therefore, ARRC will proceed with PTC compliance.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.   BROOKS  turned   attention  to   projects  funded   by  the                                                               
legislature.   The  Northern Rail  Extension project  proposes to                                                               
extend ARRC  one-third of  the distance  from Fairbanks  to Delta                                                               
Junction.  The  project is divided into four  phases, and partial                                                               
funding has  been authorized for  Phase 1,  which is a  bridge at                                                               
Salcha over  the Tanana  River with  access to  military training                                                               
areas.  Completion of the  bridge is expected in mid-summer 2014.                                                               
Phase 2  extends the railroad to  the bridge [slides 21  and 22].                                                               
In  response  to  Chair  Hughes, he  explained  the  bridge  will                                                               
provide rail and vehicle access.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIGGINS  expressed  his  interest  in  eventually                                                               
obtaining public access across the bridge.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT observed the  project received funding from                                                               
the military thus there may be an expectation of exclusivity.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:02:36 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROOKS, in response to  Representative Higgins, said the U.S.                                                               
Department of  Defense contributed  $104.2 million and  the state                                                               
contributed $84 million to the  project [slide 23].  He cautioned                                                               
that the military is very  concerned about civilian access across                                                               
the bridge  to its  training area.   Through  efforts by  ARRC to                                                               
employ  local  labor, the  project  is  70 percent  Alaskan  hire                                                               
[slide 24].   The Port MacKenzie Rail Extension  is underway, and                                                               
segments of  the project  are out  to bid  with funding  from the                                                               
state  through the  Mat-Su Borough  [slide 25].   Port  MacKenzie                                                               
will be the  fourth port served by ARRC and  will provide a large                                                               
staging area [slide 26].   Further, the large staging area allows                                                               
for  an industrial  loop  for  the trains  which  will move  bulk                                                               
commodities more efficiently [slide 27].                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:04:19                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR surmised after  construction of the extension                                                               
to Port MacKenzie it would  become the shipping facility for coal                                                               
from  the  north.    She  asked whether  that  would  affect  the                                                               
existing  facility at  Seward, especially  with the  reduction in                                                               
coal exports.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE  understood coal exports  will increase.  The  intent is                                                               
to serve the  businesses of Alaska, and in the  future both ports                                                               
will be needed.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR asked whether the  port at Seward will suffer                                                               
economic losses as a result of this project.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE deferred the question to UCM.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
12:06:13 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROOKS stated  ARRC is often questioned about  new lines east                                                               
to Canada, west to Nome, and north to Prudhoe Bay.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIGGINS  recalled in  2005 the Alaska  Canada Rail                                                               
Link was begun.  He asked about its recent activities.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROOKS  said ARRC  has a strategic  planner engaged  in talks                                                               
with Canadian counterparts.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE  added that G  Seven Generations Ltd.  (G7G), Vancouver,                                                               
British Columbia, has requested funds  for a feasibility study on                                                               
a  railroad to  deliver oil  from tar  sands to  the Trans-Alaska                                                               
Pipeline  System (TAPS)  at  Delta Junction.    A railway  across                                                               
Canada  would  be a  very  expensive  project.   In  response  to                                                               
Representative Higgins, it  would be a distance of  300 miles for                                                               
ARRC and 1,200 miles for the Canadian railroad.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROOKS,  in further response to  Representative Higgins, said                                                               
the  rail  gauge  is  the  same.    Returning  attention  to  the                                                               
presentation,  his experience  is that  it is  very difficult  to                                                               
assemble a corridor for transportation,  and he urged for work to                                                               
be done  on corridors through the  state rail plan.   Also, it is                                                               
important  that  existing  corridors  for highway  and  rail  are                                                               
preserved and protected [slide 28].                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
12:09:49 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE  advised ARRC works closely  with intermodal, interstate                                                               
and international  business in  support of  economic development.                                                               
Proposals to move  natural gas, liquefied natural  gas (LNG), and                                                               
refined and crude oil, in addition to the proposed Susitna-                                                                     
Watana  Hydro  project  are  under   discussion.    Two  recently                                                               
completed  wind  power projects  provided  major  work for  ARRC.                                                               
Anticipated  this summer  is the  Matanuska Electric  Association                                                               
Inc. (MEA) project  which will entail moving "ten  of the largest                                                               
engines that we  will ever carry on the railroad  to date" [slide                                                               
29].   He concluded that  ARRC is  expert at moving  mega, heavy-                                                               
lift projects.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  requested  updates  on  the  flooding  near                                                               
Talkeetna and on plans for commuter rail.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WADE acknowledged  the interest  in commuter  rail for  many                                                               
reasons; however, the  depot in Anchorage is not  a good drop-off                                                               
location.  He suggested a  transit authority is needed to develop                                                               
complete connections  for commuter traffic between  Anchorage and                                                               
the [Mat-Su Valley].                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES  asked  whether  a  commuter  rail  line  would  be                                                               
economic.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE said a transit authority could receive subsidies.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:14:17 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
RALPH SAMUELS, Vice President,  Community & Government Relations,                                                               
Holland America  Line (HAL), informed the  committee his comments                                                               
will  only address  the travel  patterns along  the Railbelt,  as                                                               
travel   patterns   in   Southeast  are   completely   different.                                                               
Typically,  a ship  will  disembark at  Seward  or Whittier,  and                                                               
passengers travel  by coach or  rail to Anchorage,  Talkeetna, or                                                               
Fairbanks to fly in or  out, or connect with other transportation                                                               
[slide 1].   About 60 percent of summer visitors  arrive by ship,                                                               
most others  arrive by  air, and a  very small  percentage drive.                                                               
After  arrival,   travel  vacation  packages  are   available  to                                                               
purchase,  as well  as  car and  motorhome  rentals, or  outgoing                                                               
flights  [slide 2].   Holland  America Line  (HAL) owns  coaches,                                                               
lodging, and railcars,  and supports local products  for food and                                                               
beverages;  in  fact,  in  addition  to  produce,  HAL  purchased                                                               
265,000 pounds of  silver salmon, 123,000 pounds  of king salmon,                                                               
113,000 pounds  of halibut, and  226,000 pounds of king  crab and                                                               
other seafood [slide 3].   Marketing data has shown that visitors                                                               
want  to see  wildlife,  glaciers, and  Mt.  McKinley [slide  4].                                                               
Although purported  to own all  kinds of tourism  businesses, Mr.                                                               
Samuels stressed that  HAL is a transportation  company that owns                                                               
coaches, railcars, and  ships and - with the  exception of Dawson                                                               
- local vendors provide tour  activities [slide 5].  The economic                                                               
impact  of tourism  to  the state  is almost  $4  billion, and  8                                                               
percent or  9 percent of jobs  in the state are  directly related                                                               
to the tourist industry [slide 6].   An example of the revenue to                                                               
local governments is  that bed taxes collected  during the season                                                               
pay for three-quarters  of services in the  Denali Borough [slide                                                               
7].   He offered to provide  further details on revenue  to local                                                               
governments paid  by the  tour industry.   Total revenue  paid to                                                               
the state in 2011-12 was $107 million [slide 8].                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
12:23:30 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES questioned  the figures  paid for  corporate income                                                               
tax between 2008-09 and 2011-12 that were shown on slide 8.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SAMUELS will  confirm the  accuracy  of these  figures.   In                                                               
further response to  Chair Hughes, he said he could  not speak to                                                               
changes in Alaska Marine Highway  System (AMHS) traffic.  Various                                                               
partnerships are  part of the  tourism business and  HAL partners                                                               
with the national parks, state  parks, and cultural organizations                                                               
for  informational programs  for visitors  and employee  training                                                               
[slide 9].   Turning to visitor flow, he advised  that 150,000 of                                                               
HAL guests  ride the railroad  at some  point.  In  addition, HAL                                                               
has 260  coaches on the road,  owns 20 railcars, and  has 10 more                                                               
railcars available  for use.   Most railcars hold between  72 and                                                               
88 people,  and it would  take more than  50 coaches to  take the                                                               
place of  the railcars  [slide 11].   Mr. Samuels  encouraged the                                                               
committee to take a tour to Talkeetna and Denali this summer.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
12:31:23 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIGGINS asked  whether the bed tax  is a deterrent                                                               
to tourism.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMUELS  cautioned against targeted  taxes that drive  up the                                                               
cost  of  doing  business.    To  answer  the  question  of  what                                                               
government can  do for  business, he pointed  out that  ships and                                                               
airlines  can   change  locations  easily  unless   there  is  an                                                               
investment  in infrastructure.   Holland  America Line  has about                                                               
$500 million in assets in Alaska,  and policies of the state that                                                               
encourage land assets are advisable.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES  asked  whether  ARRC, UCM,  and  HAL  have  formal                                                               
contacts on a regular basis.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
12:34:56 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMUELS  assured the committee  HAL and ARRC  have day-to-day                                                               
contact  and a  great relationship.   Also,  HAL has  an employee                                                               
facility  in  Healy  so  there  is  interaction  with  the  local                                                               
company.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
12:35:57 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE  agreed that ARRC,  HAL, and UCM are  interwoven because                                                               
of operational issues.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES  specified  her question  on  contact  between  the                                                               
companies was directed to whether they share long-term planning.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE said yes.  Many contracts have 10-year terms.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES returned  to the  subject of  a commuter  line that                                                               
could bring tourists  to Palmer; she pointed out  that the tracks                                                               
to Palmer were removed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE stated that the Fair  Train fills up quickly, thus there                                                               
is  demand  for  transportation  from  Anchorage  to  the  Mat-Su                                                               
Valley.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    HERRON   expressed    his   interest    in   an                                                               
infrastructure tour from Seward to Healy.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:39:29 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HUGHES  asked about  the  value  of  a  rail line  to  the                                                               
proposed Wishbone Hill Mine project.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. SIMON  observed that there is  not an existing track  to that                                                               
area and  UCM chose the  trucking option, the most  viable option                                                               
in the  near term, to transport  coal out to Port  MacKenzie.  In                                                               
response  to an  earlier question  from Representative  Tarr, she                                                               
said UCM will not abandon its  Seward coal facility, but will use                                                               
Port  MacKenzie  as a  supplemental  port  if  the rail  line  is                                                               
completed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
12:41:41 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR questioned  whether developing Port MacKenzie                                                               
is a good  use of state funds when there  are existing facilities                                                               
at Seward.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SIMON,  speaking  as a  Matanuska-Susitna  Valley  resident,                                                               
opined that state investment in Port  MacKenzie is "key."  From a                                                               
business perspective,  she said UCM already  supplies 100 percent                                                               
of  Alaska's need  for  coal, thus  the only  way  to expand  its                                                               
business is  to increase exports,  but the facility at  Seward is                                                               
already near  capacity.  International coal  markets are expected                                                               
to increase and lead to an increase in exports.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
12:43:24 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HUGHES  inquired as  to what  actions the  committee should                                                               
take to benefit industry.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SIMON urged  for a  stable regulatory  environment; constant                                                               
changes in regulations create difficulties for business.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. WADE relayed  two items: ARRC requires state  support for the                                                               
growth and health of its  customers and financial support for the                                                               
difficulties ahead in 2013 and 2014.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. SAMUELS  encouraged more infrastructure development,  such as                                                               
the  South Denali  Visitor Center.   He  cautioned again  against                                                               
targeted  taxes, and  urged  the  committee to  be  aware of  the                                                               
upcoming PTC issue for ARRC.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BROOKS  restated  the   importance  of  preserving  existing                                                               
transportation corridors.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
12:46:42 PM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Special  Committee on  Economic  Development,  Trade and  Tourism                                                               
meeting was adjourned at 12:46 p.m.                                                                                             

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
AKRR House EDTT presentation revised.pdf HEDT 2/28/2013 11:15:00 AM
HAL Overview on tourism travel patterns - Feb 2013 - for AK Legis.pdf HEDT 2/28/2013 11:15:00 AM
UCM at HEDTT 022813.pdf HEDT 2/28/2013 11:15:00 AM